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Police Brutality
The elephant in the room is that at least 2 unarmed people were shot by the police and the media is silent. What happened to "ACAB"? Maybe they're not bastards when they're government dogs blind-firing into a group of people who have different opinions. Where the media or leftoids talk about this, they don't call it "police shooting of an unarmed person", they call it "gun violence".
But who shot the gun? No protestors had (brandished or used, and as far as I'm aware of) guns because DC had banned all weapons in a certain radius of capitol hill.
Where were the leftoids sharing the settings to disable video autoplay to avoid watching violent content when videos of George Floyd were going around?
Now it's "They should have obeyed the law". Like any of the other people who got killed by the police, right?
"They shouldn't have been trespassing" Now the leftoids are saying people do have the right to defend their property with lethal force...
Police depriving people of due process by killing them was wrong then and it's wrong now, simple as.
The most disgusting leftoids talk about the shooting the same way self-avowed, honest-to-god white supremacists (and feds) talked about the BLM protests. At first, when I found out one of the victims was a woman, I was curious to hear with the MGTOW/Incel/"Manosphere" reaction would be, but I read enough blatant misogyny from leftoid commenters that I figured the "Manosphere" couldn't do significantly worse.
I call "bullshit" on the facade of "decency" and "love". Then again, what else would I expect from Communists.
Yellowbellies and Lemmings
Similarly, it's funny to watch the alleged "anarchist" and "libertarian" left suddenly become pro-police and pro-government, sharing sympathetic pictures of cowering politicians, complaining about the profaning of the sacred space of the democratic process, saying we need to act civilly and let the government do it's job. The reason it's funny and not surprising is because I know the majority of these people are statist sell-outs who want big government to solve all their problems.
It's interesting to watch "Don't tread on me" Libertarians who normally jack off to the 1st and 2nd amendment suddenly turn into pro-cop, pro-government bootlickers in sympathy for the state. Libertarianism (in America) is like the school reject table. It's where a lot of people end up who don't identify with either mainstream party. It's ideologically diverse (not a bad thing), but it's possible that some people just adopt the aesthetics and talking points of Libertarianism just to have a place to belong. When the heat is on, their true colors show because they're LARPing.
While not exactly out-of-pocket, it's still funny to watch neocons and neocon-adjacents like Mitch McConnell, Kelly Loeffler, and Ben Shapiro complain about the situation they helped create and beg for obedience. I bitched about boomers in the post about 230, but it's the same thing. These people run on this kind of respectability politics where you have to be as boring as possible, don't break the status quo or draw attention to yourself. Being angry about the government, beyond a certain point, is for rebellious teenagers who hate their fathers. A mature adult makes peace with The System.
Il Duce Trump
Leftoids are claiming "Trump is a Fascist and the protest is because his followers want to install him as dictator!" but that's false. The only definition under which Trump qualifies as a "Fascist" is under the Leftist definition of "anyone opposed to Marxist ideas". Otherwise, it's "Hitler drank water!"-level boogeyman nonsense, or thinking it's true because someone said it was.
Maintaining some semblance of a border and not giving everyone everything for free is not Fascism.
But imagine thinking that allowing free speech, press, and the right to bear arms is Fascism.
Fascists expand the government, put political opponents on lists, perform historic and linguistic revisionism, control speech and press, establish robust welfare, propagandize all media, team up with corporations, and have zero tolerance opposing points of view. They convince the people to scapegoat a group and promise them that this will solve all their problems.
"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
-- Benito Mussolini, noted libertarian, free speech advocate and tolerator of political dissidents
The idea of installing Trump as a dictator/king is equally deranged. Anyone promoting the idea of "King Trump" or a literal "Trump Dynasty" is hard-R retarded, and it's basically just the rightoid cringe fringe. The reason the election is being challenged by most rightoids is partially because of the issue of the 25th Amendment and Biden's suspected senility/dementia, and partially because of a number of anomalies in the election ranging from ballots outnumbering registered voters, statistical aberrations, and instances where Republican poll workers were barred from entering or were "social distanced" to a location they couldn't see the ballots clearly, among a number of other issues.
Tricks and Traps
There's some speculation the whole thing was a set-up. On one hand, leftoids point out that security was more visible for the BLM event in the capitol and that were was a conspicuous lack of tear gas and rubber bullets. Although the police fatally shot at least 2 people instead of gassing them, I can't disagree with the other parts. Once they got into the foyer, they just sort of walked in. Cops were taking selfies. It's possible those particular cops were sympathetic to the rioters.
Apart from stealing computer hard drives (it's not clear which computers they were from, e.g. whether they contain useful info or just a Windows OS), the speaker podium, and doing minor vandalism, the rioters didn't do anything in the building. No fires, no destruction of significant property.
My suspicion based on leftoid reactions is this may be used to justify more online spying, profiling, lists, censorship, snitching doxxing, and infringement of rights. The question is whether it was a spontaneous event or if fed plants were leading the rioters into a trap, but ultimately does it matter?
The government hates us but likes to give us just enough to keep us from revolting. We're just economic units in their corporate games.
The elephant in the room is that at least 2 unarmed people were shot by the police and the media is silent. What happened to "ACAB"? Maybe they're not bastards when they're government dogs blind-firing into a group of people who have different opinions. Where the media or leftoids talk about this, they don't call it "police shooting of an unarmed person", they call it "gun violence".
But who shot the gun? No protestors had (brandished or used, and as far as I'm aware of) guns because DC had banned all weapons in a certain radius of capitol hill.
Where were the leftoids sharing the settings to disable video autoplay to avoid watching violent content when videos of George Floyd were going around?
Now it's "They should have obeyed the law". Like any of the other people who got killed by the police, right?
"They shouldn't have been trespassing" Now the leftoids are saying people do have the right to defend their property with lethal force...
Police depriving people of due process by killing them was wrong then and it's wrong now, simple as.
The most disgusting leftoids talk about the shooting the same way self-avowed, honest-to-god white supremacists (and feds) talked about the BLM protests. At first, when I found out one of the victims was a woman, I was curious to hear with the MGTOW/Incel/"Manosphere" reaction would be, but I read enough blatant misogyny from leftoid commenters that I figured the "Manosphere" couldn't do significantly worse.
I call "bullshit" on the facade of "decency" and "love". Then again, what else would I expect from Communists.
Yellowbellies and Lemmings
Similarly, it's funny to watch the alleged "anarchist" and "libertarian" left suddenly become pro-police and pro-government, sharing sympathetic pictures of cowering politicians, complaining about the profaning of the sacred space of the democratic process, saying we need to act civilly and let the government do it's job. The reason it's funny and not surprising is because I know the majority of these people are statist sell-outs who want big government to solve all their problems.
It's interesting to watch "Don't tread on me" Libertarians who normally jack off to the 1st and 2nd amendment suddenly turn into pro-cop, pro-government bootlickers in sympathy for the state. Libertarianism (in America) is like the school reject table. It's where a lot of people end up who don't identify with either mainstream party. It's ideologically diverse (not a bad thing), but it's possible that some people just adopt the aesthetics and talking points of Libertarianism just to have a place to belong. When the heat is on, their true colors show because they're LARPing.
While not exactly out-of-pocket, it's still funny to watch neocons and neocon-adjacents like Mitch McConnell, Kelly Loeffler, and Ben Shapiro complain about the situation they helped create and beg for obedience. I bitched about boomers in the post about 230, but it's the same thing. These people run on this kind of respectability politics where you have to be as boring as possible, don't break the status quo or draw attention to yourself. Being angry about the government, beyond a certain point, is for rebellious teenagers who hate their fathers. A mature adult makes peace with The System.
Il Duce Trump
Leftoids are claiming "Trump is a Fascist and the protest is because his followers want to install him as dictator!" but that's false. The only definition under which Trump qualifies as a "Fascist" is under the Leftist definition of "anyone opposed to Marxist ideas". Otherwise, it's "Hitler drank water!"-level boogeyman nonsense, or thinking it's true because someone said it was.
Maintaining some semblance of a border and not giving everyone everything for free is not Fascism.
But imagine thinking that allowing free speech, press, and the right to bear arms is Fascism.
Fascists expand the government, put political opponents on lists, perform historic and linguistic revisionism, control speech and press, establish robust welfare, propagandize all media, team up with corporations, and have zero tolerance opposing points of view. They convince the people to scapegoat a group and promise them that this will solve all their problems.
"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
-- Benito Mussolini, noted libertarian, free speech advocate and tolerator of political dissidents
The idea of installing Trump as a dictator/king is equally deranged. Anyone promoting the idea of "King Trump" or a literal "Trump Dynasty" is hard-R retarded, and it's basically just the rightoid cringe fringe. The reason the election is being challenged by most rightoids is partially because of the issue of the 25th Amendment and Biden's suspected senility/dementia, and partially because of a number of anomalies in the election ranging from ballots outnumbering registered voters, statistical aberrations, and instances where Republican poll workers were barred from entering or were "social distanced" to a location they couldn't see the ballots clearly, among a number of other issues.
Tricks and Traps
There's some speculation the whole thing was a set-up. On one hand, leftoids point out that security was more visible for the BLM event in the capitol and that were was a conspicuous lack of tear gas and rubber bullets. Although the police fatally shot at least 2 people instead of gassing them, I can't disagree with the other parts. Once they got into the foyer, they just sort of walked in. Cops were taking selfies. It's possible those particular cops were sympathetic to the rioters.
Apart from stealing computer hard drives (it's not clear which computers they were from, e.g. whether they contain useful info or just a Windows OS), the speaker podium, and doing minor vandalism, the rioters didn't do anything in the building. No fires, no destruction of significant property.
My suspicion based on leftoid reactions is this may be used to justify more online spying, profiling, lists, censorship, snitching doxxing, and infringement of rights. The question is whether it was a spontaneous event or if fed plants were leading the rioters into a trap, but ultimately does it matter?
The government hates us but likes to give us just enough to keep us from revolting. We're just economic units in their corporate games.
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