Precaution In General

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Sky Reed

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I know there is a post about the coronavirus on worldly talk, I just don't want this buried in the discussion. I live in California, and some family members live in LA. I work as a certified nursing assistant, on leave/break right now so this is really scary since Miramar is just our backyard, and LA is just 2 hours away from us.

I just want to post this. Just a precaution for people, I even tell my partner to use a mask and always carry a hand sanitizer in his pocket, it is paranoia running around but better be safe than sorry. I am a bit of OC anyway, automatic for me about the hand sanitizer because I got sick one time when I forgot to wash my hands after shaking hands with a client, so it is not just related to the virus right now but just a precaution in general.

For family and friends in Cali please pack a small bottle of hand sanitizer if you want to wear a mask please do so. Wipe or wash hands as often as you can touching a cart at a supermarket, door, etc, wash hands. 6 people in LA found with the virus. In Miramar, someone handling a box of wipes at a Kirkland store contracted a virus that was shipped from China. Panic buying everywhere here. Just be careful wash hands please use the sanitizer for everything else, wipe anything you buy at a store anywhere
 

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Make sure the sanitizer is at least 60% alcohol. The paper surgical masks don't do much other than block someone else's sneeze from spreading (as much). They don't help a healthy person prevent infection very well. Here is the CDC page about prevention.

*And, depending on which headlines you read and how they were worded... no, a dog in Hong Kong didn't get actually infected. Still no evidence, and incredibly unlikely that common pets could get and transmit it (any more than any other non-disinfected object).
 

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I don't carry any special items (although I might consider doing so if my area gets an outbreak -- but I assume that in an outbreak situation, things like sanitizer will be in short supply anyways). What I have done instead is gotten into the habit of using things other than my fingertips to touch surfaces. I'll hit an elevator button with my wrist or elbow, and I'll turn a doorknob with the insides of my fingers, close to the palm, so that it's less likely I'll touch my face later with those spots (until I can get a chance to wash my hands).

I've seen some very clever inventions from China for pushing elevator buttons. One uses a paperclip attached to the end of a lighter so that you can burn away the germs from the clip after each use. Another has toothpicks or tissues available inside the elevator that people can use and then throw away (into a provided paper cup or plastic bag).

I still have to worry about the money-handling problem. If you don't use cash, then you're using a touchscreen or keypad, so what can you do, really? Wear gloves?

Also avoid shaking hands, and definitely avoid kissing anyone who isn't your romantic partner. I'm starting to understand now why in Japan the custom is to bow as a greeting. It's a good alternative to shaking hands! Likewise, the Buddhist wai gesture that they do in Thailand. It keeps your hands busy so you're not tempted to touch the other person. It's almost as if east Asian cultures had to evolve for centuries living next to a massive disease factory called China... 😏

The biggest precaution for me is that I just don't go out much (just like in the latest xkcd comic), except for going to work and back, and to the grocery store. I always wash produce before I eat it, though I have no plan for dealing with things like bags and boxes and jars.

My backup strategy is that if I do get infected--perhaps because it's inevitable--I'm just keeping my health up, so that the symptoms will be as mild as one can hope: Getting lots of sleep, having good nutrition, keeping sufficient levels of vitamin C, and staying away from booze. Also keeping warm. Your immune system works more efficiently at higher body temperature, which is why people get fevers in the first place, and why a cold is called a cold (because you're more likely to get sick if you don't keep warm). If you get a fever, be careful about taking anything that's meant to reduce fever, because it will work at cross-purposes to your immune system. As long as your temperature isn't so high that your life is in danger, or you're getting delirious, it's better to just rest and let your body do its natural thing.
 

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I started avoiding using my fingertips as much as possible after my stint in microbio lab in college. I use my knuckles or the back of my hand for anything I can, like most push doors and elevators. I also touch my eyes a lot less than I used to. These changes are so old, I don't even think about them anymore.

China is almost cashless for most daily things, even some beggars use mobile payments. I read that they were disinfecting or destroying cash in Wuhan, which is probably smart. Just disinfect your phone if you're worried someone else coughed on it. You should disinfect your phone, anyways, even if most of the germs came from you.
 

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We have one in San Diego now, where I am. It is really scary. She came from Italy and went to 19 At& T stores in Otay Lakes it is our local haunts, where we shop where we bank. Good thing we are not AT&T she is in quarantine now. But still, its really scared that they are in our neighborhood now.

Quick question: If you get quarantined, how you are going to work, eat, shop and pay rent and other bills or your hospital bills what is going to happen? How are you going to survive cooped up in the house and your funds are dwindling?
 
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Here's a little demo of good hand-washing technique, for those who aren't sure. It's from a doctor in the UK who has been making daily videos tracking the spread of the virus.

 

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Oh, we do that and know that my partner is on dialysis so they taught us how to wash our hands like a surgeon, I adapted that when I use a public restroom, uses the paper towel to turn off faucet and open the door and hopefully, there is a trash can nearby if not once I open it use my foot to hold the door open and just let it slam.
 

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Here's a video going over the basics, for anyone who has forgotten or was confused. Most of us should already know this by now, I think, but I'm just gonna leave it here as a resource :)


(Also a correction: I previously said this guy was a doctor, he's actually a retired nurse with a PhD)
 
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Never thought I'd use anything again learned in my hoe phase, but this is a good time for "clean hand, dirty hand" (and the resulting one-hand dexterity) to be second-nature.
 
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